Discover the realities of Maine SEIU, Forced Unionism, and the local Socialist movement

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Bruce Libby
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You have learned young Jedi !

You have learned young Jedi !

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GET A LOAD OF THIS!

GET A LOAD OF THIS!

Last-minute election attack has hurt business, says restaurant owner ...
www.post-gazette.com/news/politics...Finn-SEIU...Pittsburgh/.../20180319...

32BJ SEIU Demands Answers on Sonja Finn's $50,000 in Federal ...
www.seiu32bj.org/press-releases/32bj-demands-answers-sonja-finn-labor-vi...

Editorial: Union's attack on Sonja Finn unnecessary, harms restaurant
https://pittnews.com/article/129209/opinions/unions-attack-finn-unnecess...

A friend of mine in Pittsburgh sent me these recent news articles and editorials.

It’s all about some Stalinist SEIU pig going after a single mother shop keeper….

Because she had the audacity to run in a political campaign for City Council….

Against his preferred candidate.

And nor did it matter to SEIU that she was the local Democrat Party nominee.

It wasn’t who they wanted and what they say goes!

So he files a complaint to the US Department of Labor about her…

Claiming she was wrongfully diverting her tips among her staff…

Even though it’s what her non-unionized kitchen & wait staff approved of…

And even though they get on average $21 hourly for their work.

How dare this business woman even be!

Sound familiar?

Thereafter a Marxist conception of class struggle led to an almost totally imaginary class categorization being inflicted in the villages, where peasants with a couple of cows or five or six acres more than their neighbors were now being labeled "kulaks," and a class war against them declared

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak

Stalinists just can't stand the fact that anyone else might have the wherewithal to do better than them.

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LD 1880 – “An Act To Prohibit

LD 1880 – “An Act To Prohibit Mandatory Membership in a Union or Payment of Agency Fees as a Condition of Employment”

FMI, see http://legislature.maine.gov/legis/bills/display_ps.asp?LD=1880&snum=128

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Again, if this law passes,

Again, if this law passes, will it mean that folks—say, teachers—who choose not to join the union or pay fees will simply work under the contract that the union bargains for?

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But not receive other

But not receive other benefits in contract related to membership.

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Matt, I think that's a very

Matt, I think that's a very HUGE "if" since Maine appears to have a strong progressive/socialist base in the Capital. In reality, it looks like we have a better chance of benefiting from a national Right-To-Work law if/when one is passed... even if it's just one for public-servants as is now under consideration in the Janus vs. AFSCME case with our SCOTUS.

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LIVING IN THE LAP OF LUXURY

LIVING IN THE LAP OF LUXURY

According to a report it filed with the US Department of Labor, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) spent over $2.3 million at 4- to 5-star hotels around the world in 2016. (Data for 2017 is not yet available.) With so many of SEIU’s members working low-paying jobs as janitors and health care workers, it seems unlikely that many of SEIU’s members regularly travel in such luxury. Below are some of the amenities available at several of these fine hotels.

http://seiumonitor.com/

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Although I realize we have a

Although I realize we have a lot of fake news floating around these days, I hope this new article is true:

SEIU slashes funding for $15 minimum wage movement

Full article @ https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/economy/seiu-slashes-funding-f...

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I’m confused, Moving Forward.

I’m confused, Moving Forward. Do you hate unions because they don’t fight for workers, or because they do?

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If the link is credible, it

If the link is credible, it points to an answer: paying for minimum wage efforts isn't cost-effective for the union. Not enough new members to recoup the expense. Translation: private-sector workers don't believe union membership can help them.

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Economike

Economike
I would add to that ,they do not derive enough political influence for the expense.

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Bruce - Good observation.

Bruce -

Good observation.

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Thank you.

Thank you.

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LABOR RACKET WEEKLY

LABOR RACKET WEEKLY

March 2018 was yet another busy month for the US Department of Labor:

http://laborpains.org/2018/04/05/labor-racket-weekly-more-march-misery/

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It doesn't look like SEIU

It doesn't look like SEIU will ever learn... but news stories like this one are great to read!

Wife of Oregon Lawmaker Sues Union, Joining National Effort

The wife of an Oregon lawmaker is suing the state's largest union, joining a national push by an anti-union group to end the required payment of union fees.

4/26/18

"Debora Nearman, wife of Rep. Mike Nearman, a Republican from Independence, filed suit late Wednesday against the state branch of Service Employees International Union, claiming fee-payment requirements violate her First Amendment rights."

Full article: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/oregon/articles/2018-04-26/wife-...


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WHAT ARE THEY SMOKING?

WHAT ARE THEY SMOKING?

But (NEA President Randi) Weingarten may have been more candid a few days later when she reminded the corporate class that leaders like herself serve their interests by keeping a lid on working class militancy. “A loss of collective bargaining would lead to more activism and political action, not less. Collective bargaining exists as a way for workers and employers to peacefully solve labor relations.” (Washington Post, 3/5/2018). AFSCME attorney David Frederick’s argument against Janus in the Supreme Court made the message even clearer. “Union security is the tradeoff for no strikes,” he said. He warned the Court that if it breaks the deal that allows unions to collect fees from all bargaining unit members, “you can raise an untold specter of labor unrest throughout the country.” (Education Week, 3/6/2018).

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/04/27/which-side-are-union-leaders-on/

Oh no! Less than 7% of the nation’s work force may strike.

What are we ever going to do?

I say let them have at it.

Imagine Weingarten & Frederick telling voluntary union members they have to strike without pay...

So that Weingarten & Frederick can continue extorting money from people who want nothing to do with them.

All the while Weingarten & Frederick keep getting paid themselves.

That will raise a stink alright... from union & non-union members.

But not “…an untold specter” whatever that is.

Could it be Union leaders sitting in protest behind trucks?

Like someone we used to know?

Well then just back up.

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" in protest behind trucks"

" in protest behind trucks"

Ohhhhh, Sonny you devil you!!!!

Very good one , thanks for memory !

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WORD OF THE DAY

WORD OF THE DAY

And that word is "co-option".

Since MSEA was initially founded as a State Government Management Association...

It has an inherent conflict of interest…

With the non-management government workers it's supposed to represent.

And I don't think that conflict is an accident of history.

I suspect it is a deliberate policy of Maine State Government to co-opt Maine State workers.

Done by Democrats and Republicans!

How else did a State Human Resources Officer (who disciplines workers) become MSEA President?

That's like an Assistant District Attorney also working as the Chief Public Defender.

And the fact that MSEA has also joined in with SEIU is just as much camouflage as it is stupidity.

Because they need to look like a union in order to keep attracting fools and their money.

While at the same time ensuring that their "union" is completely ineffective.

And that's what Rod Hiltz meant when he said: "This would be a great place to have a union."

Because he knew it wasn't one.

So Maine State employees have been and are getting shafted on a number of fronts.

First because they have to either join and or pay dues to this SEIU-Democrat Party sham.

And second because this sham doesn't do much for them in return but take their money.

Now put that in your pipe and smoke it!

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AN OLDIE BUT GOODIE: “WELCOME

AN OLDIE BUT GOODIE: “WELCOME BACK NARSBARS!”

Narsbars: “There are no forced dues in Maine.”

Sonny: “Errr…Maine is a collective bargaining State.”

“That means wherever there is a collective bargaining contract in a Maine work place…”

“That means it’s a union shop…”

“That means you have 30 days to join the union or pay the dues (fee) or be fired.”

Narsbars: “There is no ability for any Union in the U.S. to force an employee to pay dues.”

Sonny: “That’s only true in so called 'right to work' States where union shops aren’t permitted.”

“Otherwise…what part of the above don’t you understand?”

Narsbars: “If you want the right to be a dead beat, free rider, say so!”

Sonny: “Now you have just contradicted yourself…since “free riding” isn’t permitted in a union shop.”

“However if Maine State government were to outlaw ‘union shops’…”

“Then workers would have the right to choose whether to belong to a particular union or not.”

“It’s called freedom of choice and freedom of association.”

“And for all you labor union apologists out there….”

“There are no “free rider” concerns in a “right to work” State!”

“Because labor unions in ‘right to work’ States only have to represent people who pay them!”

“They don’t have to (and don’t) represent workers who don’t pay them.”

“Just like any other business.”

Narsbars: “Be proud of your selfisness, but as I said, no one can be forced to pay dues.”

Sonny: “Right….workers in a union shop must pay up or get fired!”

Narsbars: “Yes, Sonny, I smell a pig. I smell your ignorance and hate.”

Sonny: “If MSEA isn’t paying you to write this stuff…then you should be charging them for services rendered.”

Narsbars: “Since it is the fault of the State for delaying so long to agree to the contract's final printing after having tried to slip through language never agreed to, that the Union caught and deleted if you really cared about employees you would be happy that the contracts are reviewed before being printed.”

Sonny: “I have no problem with parties to an agreement going back and forth to review for the final draft.”

“However, that’s not what I complained about earlier.”

“I complained about MSEA not providing members with copies of the Tentative Agreement (to read in full).”

“Instead MSEA provided ‘their’ members summaries of the Tentative Agreement.”

“Think about that for a minute!”

“Members were not permitted to see the TA for ratification purposes.”

“Sorry…but only an Animal Farm fool would defend such a policy.”

“So much for you really caring about employees.”

Narsbars: “How does it feel not having a Narantula to keep your arguments one sided?”

Sonny: “Don’t know what you’re talking about.”

http://themainecitizen.com/archive/index.php?thread-61-4.html

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700,000+ VIEWS!!!

700,000+ VIEWS!!!

Count'em, that is now 700,000+ views!!!

The Supply of alternative information here just keeps pace with ever rising Demand for it.

Why?

Short answer is MSEA-SEIU sucks, and has sucked and keeps on sucking as a labor union.

De-regulate labor unions and MSEA-SEIU will fade away into free market place oblivion where it belongs.

Just like any other lousy business.

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Some of us read the thread

Some of us read the thread just to see the latest BS incarnation of your fraudulent pro-worker scam.

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Any business is good business

Any business is good business!

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Matt

Matt
You know little of the back story related to this thread.
In reality this thread has contributed to the historic change in Union contracts i.e. the elimination of "fairshare " requirements for state employees .
It took quite a while for it to happen ,but it happened.

The only person/s who can change the union issues is the members themselves.

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Thanks for telling me what I

Thanks for telling me what I do and don’t know.

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Your welcome someoe had to do

Your welcome someone had to do it ,since you are on the verge of again making yourself look like you are.

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I think that's bit of a

I think that's bit of a stretch, Brucie. Even in its heyday, AMG was just a cracked toilet boil in the conservative sewer. To say this thread had an impact regarding the "chage" of "Union" contracts is laughable. That would be like saying you decided to use spell-check and learned to punctuate as a result of the feedback pointing out your shameless mangling the English language.

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Like most things Smegma,you

Like most things Smegma,you think but do not realize how poorly you do it.
Thanks anyway .

Anyway it had little to do with AMG perse as AMG was just the vehicle for members to read about issues.

Your right at one time it was a toilet bowl. Of course you were the turd floating in it and was flushed .New day same bowl same turd.

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LOL... I really wish Lance

LOL... I really wish Lance would install a LIKE button on this site!
Bruce, your good stuff never seems to end.

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Hey Matt, here's some

Hey Matt, here's some information that will help educate you on this important issue:

Government unions should respect employees, not intimidate them
Source: http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/384769-government-unions-should-resp...

Forced Unionism is wrong in so many ways, and I hope you'll start to recognize this fact... even though I realize you're probably looking for campaign support from the crooks at that union/PAC known as SEIU.

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